Jahn's note on Pers. I. 20 correctly aligns physical hypertrophy with mental crassness: ‘hoc vocat ingentes, ut V. 190, ingentem centurionem, III. 86, multum torosam iuventutem, V. 95, calonem altum, ut animum prae corpore neglectum significet.’ He might have added II. 71 f., quin damus id superis de magna quod dare lance/non possit magni Messallae lippa propago, where size, measured in terms of social importance, is a disqualification from acceptance by the gods, and V. 190, ingens Pulfenius, of an immense centurion amused by philosophy. As for the Horatian background to this fastidiousness about size, we can adduce the striking repetitions, magno magnum and grandes …\grande at Sat. II. 2.39 and 95–6, debunking the appetite for sheer quantity; magni quo pueri magnis e centurionibus orti, I. 6.72–3, an expression of scorn for his insensitive school-mates; the social satire of magno prognatum … magno at I. 2.70–2, and magna … cena at II. 6.104; then the philosophic irony of I. 3.136, magnorum maxime regum. For pinguis in the ironic self-identification of Ep. I. 15.24–5: