Skip to main content Accessibility help
×
Hostname: page-component-78c5997874-4rdpn Total loading time: 0 Render date: 2024-11-05T21:40:28.075Z Has data issue: false hasContentIssue false

Philodemus

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  05 June 2012

Oleg V. Bychkov
Affiliation:
St Bonaventure University, New York
Anne Sheppard
Affiliation:
Royal Holloway, University of London
Get access

Summary

On Poems 5

x.21–xii.9

… I accept entirely that a good poet differs from the one who merely writes well. For one can take an irrational story or subject and elaborate it poetically; there have been some poets like that. But the one who is also selective about his subject matter is thought to be a consummate good poet …

I accept that some who play the pipe are not good pipe-players and that this fact corresponds to my distinction between one who merely writes well and the good poet, and he is not quibbling when he brings in the musicians as witnesses that he is speaking the truth. He claims that making this distinction divides the matter in hand into two, and that the actual composition of poetry would be more, not less, important. I understand this to be the same as saying that perfect composition is more valuable than wealth of thought.

xiii.32–xv.17

Neoptolemus was wrong to separate stylistic arrangement from thought, while saying that it is neither more nor less important, as we have noted. He absurdly subdivides poetic art into (a) the person who has the skill and ability to write poetry, (b) the poem, and (c) poetry. How could that be? He ought rather to call the examples of composition ‘poetry’ or, better still, to call the ‘poems’ works and their ‘poetry’ something like the webs the poet weaves, and the one who has the skill and works with it ‘a poet’.

Type
Chapter
Information
Publisher: Cambridge University Press
Print publication year: 2010

Access options

Get access to the full version of this content by using one of the access options below. (Log in options will check for institutional or personal access. Content may require purchase if you do not have access.)

Save book to Kindle

To save this book to your Kindle, first ensure [email protected] is added to your Approved Personal Document E-mail List under your Personal Document Settings on the Manage Your Content and Devices page of your Amazon account. Then enter the ‘name’ part of your Kindle email address below. Find out more about saving to your Kindle.

Note you can select to save to either the @free.kindle.com or @kindle.com variations. ‘@free.kindle.com’ emails are free but can only be saved to your device when it is connected to wi-fi. ‘@kindle.com’ emails can be delivered even when you are not connected to wi-fi, but note that service fees apply.

Find out more about the Kindle Personal Document Service.

  • Philodemus
  • Edited and translated by Oleg V. Bychkov, St Bonaventure University, New York, Anne Sheppard, Royal Holloway, University of London
  • Book: Greek and Roman Aesthetics
  • Online publication: 05 June 2012
  • Chapter DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511780325.011
Available formats
×

Save book to Dropbox

To save content items to your account, please confirm that you agree to abide by our usage policies. If this is the first time you use this feature, you will be asked to authorise Cambridge Core to connect with your account. Find out more about saving content to Dropbox.

  • Philodemus
  • Edited and translated by Oleg V. Bychkov, St Bonaventure University, New York, Anne Sheppard, Royal Holloway, University of London
  • Book: Greek and Roman Aesthetics
  • Online publication: 05 June 2012
  • Chapter DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511780325.011
Available formats
×

Save book to Google Drive

To save content items to your account, please confirm that you agree to abide by our usage policies. If this is the first time you use this feature, you will be asked to authorise Cambridge Core to connect with your account. Find out more about saving content to Google Drive.

  • Philodemus
  • Edited and translated by Oleg V. Bychkov, St Bonaventure University, New York, Anne Sheppard, Royal Holloway, University of London
  • Book: Greek and Roman Aesthetics
  • Online publication: 05 June 2012
  • Chapter DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511780325.011
Available formats
×