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The Role of America in the ‘Debate on France’ 1791–5: Thomas Paine's Insertion

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  26 January 2009

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It is a commonplace of British History that following the onset of the French Revolution and the publication of Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France a widespread debate on political principles took place. The ‘debate on France’—the trial of the French Revolution before the enlightened and independent tribunal of the English public, as James Mackintosh referred to it,—was, according to Alfred Cobban, ‘perhaps the last real discussion of the fundamentals of politics in this country’.

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16 George Chalmers, Paine's first ‘biographer’, (writing under the pseudonym, Francis Oldys), substantially enlarged his discussion of Paine, 's writing after the publication of the Rights of Man: Part TwoGoogle Scholar, including a direct attack on the example of America.

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23 Pocock, J. G. A., Virtue, Commerce and History, Cambridge, 1985, p. 276CrossRefGoogle Scholar—although Pocock's comment refers to Paine, the point holds good for individual works. See also Philp, M., Paine, Oxford, 1989, chs. 2 and 3.Google Scholar

24 One notable exception to this is the anonymous A Defence of the Constitution of England, London and also Dublin, 1791Google Scholar, in which American subversion is clearly recognized: ‘Since the conclusion of the American War, a leaven of sedition has been in fermentation in all Europe, and particularly in England and France’ (p. 1). Paine is described as an American Crimp ‘the honourable employment of which is to steal inventions, and decoy artists from Europe to America on plausible and false pretences’. Franklin was the first to fill this office, which amounts to that of conduit for a lateeighteenth-century brain drain (p. 2). See also pp. 7, 9, 24–6 and 35.

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