Article, 100; response, 300+. Is this a metaphor for the medico-legal contribution to psychiatric knowledge, i.e. more words? The ‘evidence’ for treatability of detained patients is the case law: tribunals don't discharge them and stretch the definition of treatment in so far it makes sense only to lawyers. I don't criticise the players for making a living, but the waste of public money from asking the wrong people the wrong question. Still, the profession could do more by ensuring independent experts in psychiatry (as in other branches of medicine) have clinical or research expertise rather than just an opinion (100).