It is a pity that Pressnell and Hopkins do not make a more detailed rejoinder to the large number of points which I made in my original reply to them. They do indicate that the Cabinet did not include the specific phrase cheap labour in Abbey 35, but I also made that clear in my original article by quoting it at length. What the Cabinet did say was that they wanted ‘…to prevent our markets from being undercut by countries with a low standard of living like Japan’. The two authors may have scored a point here, but only at the cost of the issue. It seems to me much more plausible to suggest that Churchill's response in which he mentions cheap labour was prompted by the above phrase from Abbey 35 than to suggest, as the two authors dos that it is just as likely that it was prompted by point 5 of the Charter, concerning general welfare provisions, contained in Abbey 31.