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Some Implications of a Passage in Plato's Republic

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  25 February 2009

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In Book VII, p. 520, Socrates describes the arguments by which the philosophers must be induced to “return to the cave,” that is to say, to resume the practical business of politics from which they have escaped into the better life of contemplation. They must be shown that this sacrifice is a debt which they owe to the city in return for the opportunity which it has afforded them of becoming philosophers. “Will our pupils,"1 he continues, “when they hear this, refuse to share in turn the toils of state, when they are allowed to spend the greater part of their time with one another in the heaven of ideas?” “Impossible,” Glaucon replies; “for they are just men, and the commands which we impose on them are just; there can be no doubt that every one of them will take office as a stern necessity, and not like our present ministers of state’.

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Copyright © The Royal Institute of Philosophy 1936

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page 301 note 1 520d, Jowett's trans.

page 301 note 2 I should say rather “Athenian,” since I do not propose to take notice of any philosophy except that of the Socratic, Platonic, and Aristotelian tradition.

page 302 note 1 τιειτ’, φη, δικσομεν αυτος, και ποισομεν ερον ζν, δυνατν ατος δν μεινον.

page 302 note 2 It is thus an exception to Professor Prichard's dictum (Duty and Interest, p. 10) that Plato implies “that it is impossible for any action to be really just, i.e. a duty, unless it is to the advantage of the agent.” Professor Prichard assumes that throughout the Republic the word δικαιος, when applied to actions, means “right” or “morally obligatory,” and he concludes Plato's doctrine to be that such actions are necessarily conducive to the agent's good. Granted his assumption, I think his conclusion would follow, provided only that he would except the passage now under consideration; but I would reject his assumption, and prefer to express the facts by saying that δικαιος; has not the meaning of “morally obligatory” in any passage of the Republic except this.

page 302 note 3 Cf. Prichard, , op. cit., pp. 12 ff.Google Scholar

page 305 note 1 From the passage quoted above.

page 305 note 2 521b.

page 305 note 3 Cf. 521b: εις ον βον λλον τιν πολιτικν αρν καταφρονονται τον της αληθινς φιλοσοφας;

page 306 note 1 This does not mean that they are not willing members of it, but that consent is not a condition of their membership. Their willingness depends upon the formation in them of such a disposition ("Justice in the soul"), that they fulfil the law at last not against the grain. But the formation of this disposition is the result of life in the state, not vice versa.