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The Talbot-Ormond Struggle for Control of the Anglo-Irish Government, 1414-47

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  13 July 2017

M. C. Griffith
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The feud between the Talbot and Ormond interests, which dominates Anglo-Irish history from about 1414 to 1447, is of interest chiefly as an illustration of the final stage in the collapse of a government, and as affording a striking instance of that parallelism which can often be observed between English and Anglo-Irish history. In both cases the period is marked by the relapse of politics into mere faction and the corresponding decline of the institutions of government in estimation and effectiveness. In Ireland this decline is even more marked than in England, lacking, as it does, the more cheerful colours of rapid commercial progress to lighten the dark picture of political decadence. In Ireland the feuds and factions of the early fifteenth century, connected with the personalities of Sir John Talbot and the fourth earl of Ormond, brought the government to such a pitch of disorder that by the beginning of the Tudor period thorough reorganization was necessary.

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Irish Historical Studies , Volume 2 , Issue 8 , September 1941 , pp. 376 - 397
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Copyright © Irish Historical Studies Publications Ltd 1941

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page 376 note 1 H. Wood, ‘ The office of chief governor of Ireland ’, in Proc. RIA, xxxvi, sect, c, pp. 234-5.

page 377 note 1 Ibid.

page 377 note 2 See Bernard, J. H., ‘ Richard Talbot, archbishop and chancellor (1418-1449)’, in Proc. RIA., xxxv, sect, c, pp. 218-29Google Scholar.

page 377 note 3 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1429-36, p. 451. Ibid., 1436-41, p. 50. Ibid., 1446-52, p. 6.

page 377 note 4 Treasurer, 1401-6, 1413-14, and 1414 (Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1401-$, p. 3 ; 1413-16, pp. 20, 2 5 3). Chancellor, 1414 and 1420 (Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1413-16, p. 163 ; 1416-22, p. 300).

page 377 note 5 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, p. 321.

page 378 note 1 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, p. 327.

page 378 note 2 Cat. Rot. Pat. & Clam. Hib., p. 248, n. 13.

page 378 note 3 For the career of Dartas, see E. Curtis, ‘ Jenico Dartas, Richard the Second's Gascon squire ’, in Journ. RSAI, lxiii. 182-205.

page 379 note 1 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1401-5, p. 56.

page 379 note 2 Ibid., 1413-16, pp. 54, 164.

page 379 note 3 Ibid., 1416-22, p. 256.

page 379 note 4 Rymer, Foedera (1727, ed.), x. 282.

page 379 note 5 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1422-9, p. 397.

page 379 note 6 Ibid., 1422-9, p. 475; 1429-36, p. 105.

page 379 note 7 Ibid., 1436-41, p. 141.

page 379 note 8 Ibid., 1441-6, pp. 45, 345.

page 379 note 9 Early Stats. Ire., John-Hen. V, p. 567.

page 379 note 10 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1413-16, p. 163.

page 380 note 1 See appendix 11.

page 380 note 2 Cal. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 219, no. 49.

page 380 note 3 Cal. Ormond Deeds, iii. 144.

page 380 note 4 Early Stats. Ire., John-Hen. V p. 563.

page 380 note 5 PRO, chancery miscellanea, bundle 10, file 27, f. v. See appendix 1 for a translation of the Limerick document. The Kildare document is much damaged.

page 381 note 1 PRO, chancery miscellanea, bundle 10, file 27, ff. i-iv. See appendix 11.

page 381 note 2 Vol. ii, pp. 43-51.

page 381 note 3 Wylie, History of England under Henry IV, i. 228. Gilbert, Viceroys of Ireland, p. 297.

page 382 note 1 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1422-9, p. 3.

page 382 note 2 Ibid., p. 103.

page 382 note 3 Ibid., p. 379.

page 382 note 4 Proc. King's Council in Ire., 1392-3, pp. 288-94.

page 382 note 5 Cal. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 249, no. 24.

page 382 note 6 Proc. Privy Council, 1410-22, p. 43.

page 382 note 7 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1422-9, p. 528.

page 382 note 8 Cal. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 247, no. 9.

page 383 note 1 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, p. 332.

page 383 note 2 Transcript in TCD, MS. K 6, 2, p. 242.

page 383 note 3 Cal. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 248, no. 13.

page 384 note 1 Cal. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 249, no. 27.

page 384 note 2 Wood, ‘ The office of chief governor of Ireland ’, in Proc. RIA, xxxvi, sect, c, P. 235.

page 384 note 3 Cal. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 253, no. 18.

page 384 note 4 Cal. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1436-41, pp. 63, 73.

page 385 note 1 Ibid., p. 250.

page 385 note 2 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, pp. 90-1.

page 385 note 3 Cat. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1436-41, p. 514.

page 385 note 4 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, pp. 317-20. Proc. King's Council in Ire., 1392-3, pp. 273-6.

page 385 note 5 A house of canons regular near Newbridge, co. Kildare.

page 386 note 1 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, p. 184.

page 386 note 2 Proc. King's Council in Ire., 1392-3, pp. 276-84.

page 386 note 3 Ibid., pp. 285-7. This is printed from a contemporary paper transcript, and ends as follows : ‘ Writenn at your citee of Develynn, under the oon parte of youer grete seale of Irlande.’ In view of the surprising implication of the use of the great seal ‘ plaqué ‘ it is much to be regretted that the original is not known to exist.

page 386 note 4 Ibid., pp. 288-94.

page 386 note 5 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, pp. 202, 206.

page 386 note 6 Proc. King's Council in Ire., 1392-3, pp. 295-303.

page 387 note 1 Proc. Privy Council, 1436-43, pp. 321-4.

page 387 note 2 Ibid., pp. 325-7.

page 387 note 3 Ibid., pp. 327-34.

page 388 note 1 Cal. Ormond Deeds, iii. 146.

page 389 note 1 Ibid., p. 151.

page 389 note 2 See appendix in 111.

page 389 note 3 Proc. King's Council in Ire., 1392 p. 305.

page 389 note 4 Cat. Pat. Rolls, Eng., 1441-6, p. 247.

page 390 note 1 Cat. Rot. Pat. & Claus. Hib., p. 248, no. 13.

page 393 note 1 Lacunae in the MS. are indicated by dots.

page 393 note 2 Carlow.

page 393 note 3 Killenny, a small Cistercian house near Duiske in east Kilkenny.

page 394 note 1 A small nunnery in co. Kildare.

page 394 note 2 Pontoise, captured in July 1419.

page 394 note 3 A grype is a vulture or griffin. Presumably some piece of jewellery or plate is meant.

page 396 note 1 Keys.

page 396 note 2 Friar minor.

page 396 note 3 Navan.

page 396 note 4 He died in 1434.