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On the Authenticity of the Hippias Maior

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  11 February 2009

G. M. A. Grube
Affiliation:
University College, Swansea

Extract

Grote's powerful defence of Thrasyllus' canon should have taught us at least not to reject lightly any dialogue which, like the Hippias Maior, is there classed as genuine. The burden of proof lies with those who attack our dialogue. Raeder, Ritter, and Apelt consider it to be genuine, while Ast, Jowett, Horneffer, and Röllig declare against it, as also Gomperz, Zeller, and Lutoslawski.

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Research Article
Copyright
Copyright © The Classical Association 1926

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page 134 note 1 Platons philosophische Entwickelung, p. 102, and p. 106, note 1.

page 134 note 2 Platon, Vol. I., p. 359.

page 134 note 3 Platonische Aufsätze, p. 203 sqq.

page 134 note 4 Platons Leben und Schriften, p. 457.

page 134 note 5 Jowett does not translate the dialogue.

page 134 note 6 De Hippia Majore.

page 134 note 7 Der Hippias Major in Wiener Studien, 1900.

page 134 note 8 Greek Thinkers, Vol. II., p. 283.

page 134 note 9 Die phil. der Grizchen, II., pp. 480–481.

page 134 note 10 Origin and Growth 0f Plato's Logic, p. 194

page 134 note 11 Plato, Vol. II., p. 425.

page 134 note 12 L.c.

page 134 note 13 Journ. of Philol., 1920.

page 134 note 14 146a 21.

page 135 note 1 On formal accuracy in Aristotle see Excursus in Mr. L. H. G. Greenwood's edition of Nicomachean Ethics VI.

page 135 note 2 Platonische Aufsātze, p. 234.

page 135 note 3 L.c, pp. 460 sqq.

page 136 note 1 L.c, pp. 460 sqq.

page 136 note 2 Journ. of Philol. XXXV., ‘TheHippias Major.’

page 140 note 1 Ritter, , Unters. über Plato (1888), p. 97Google Scholar.

page 140 note 2 Stallbaum, , Vol. IV., p. 158: ‘sed de his (i.e. theory of ideas) nunc non est dicendi locus,’Google Scholar etc.

page 140 note 3 Akademica, p. 55.

page 140 note 4 Budé, , Platon, Vol. II., p. 5: ‘la théorie des idées n'a rien à voir ici.’Google Scholar

page 140 note 5 Journ. of Philol. XXXV. On the other hand M. Dupréel says (La légende socratique et les sources de planton p. 190)Google Scholar: C'est une défense de la théorie des idées qui fait l'objet du grand hippias’ (see also p.199).

page 140 note 6 Wiener Studien, 1900.

page 141 note 1 So Lutoslawski, rightly takes it (Growth and Development of Plato's Logic, p. 199)Google Scholar

page 141 note 2 192A: τ⋯ ποτ' ἔστιν ⋯ καì ⋯ν τῖ τρ⋯χεχιν τυγχ⋯νει ⋯ν κ. τ. λ.

page 142 note 1 Contrast also Gorg. 459D with such passages as Rep. 475 sqq., Phil. 15A.

page 142 note 2 See Taylor, Varia Socratica, ch. 5; Gillespie, C. M. in the Class. Quart., 07, 1912Google Scholar; also Ritter, , Neue Untersuch. ii. Platon, pp. 228326Google Scholar.

page 142 note 3 ιδ⋯α clearly refers to bodily stature in Euthy. 6E, and Charm. 157D: λ⋯γω μ⋯ντοι σοι ὃτι χαρμíδης τ⋯ν ⋯σικιωτ⋯ν οὐ μóνον τῇ ìδ⋯ᾳ δοκεῖ διαΦ⋯ρειν. So also αὐτ⋯ καΘ' αὑτ⋯ cannot mean anything more than ‘taken by themselves’ in Lysis 220c. As O. W. Holmes would say, the words bad not yet become ‘polarzed.’

page 142 note 4 Metaph. 1025a, quoted above, p. 135.

page 143 note 1 146a 21, see p. 135, above.

page 143 note 2 Platonische Aufsätze, pp. 222 sqq.

page 143 note 3 The key to the puzzle is to be found in 374c, Δ⋯ζαιο δ' ἄν πóτερον τ⋯γαΘ⋯ κεκτ⋯σΘαι κ. τ. λ., for Socrates would maintain that just as one would prefer to possess good, so one will also prefer to do it. He makes this clear also in 376B: εἴπερ τ⋯ς ⋯στιν οὗτος.

page 143 note 4 Phaedo 97D; Ion 532B; Charm, 166A; Rep. I. 334A (and Adam's note ad loc.).

page 143 note 5 Also 375E, etc.

page 144 note 1 Stallbaum, , Platonis opera (1832), Vol. IV., p. 157Google Scholar.

page 144 note 2 Note that Polus takes ὠϕ⋯λιμον = ⋯γαΘóν for granted here.

page 144 note 3 Especially 295D, E; and 296D, E; see also 298A.

page 144 note 4 In this article ‘Zum Hippias Major’ in Wiener Studien, July 1900, Where he reviews a tract of Horneffer, ‘De Hippia Majore.’ This I regret to say I have failed to get hold of, but Röllig's review is very full, and I do not think it unfair to base my criticism on his.

page 145 note 1 See 300A sqq.

page 145 note 2 L.c..

page 146 note 1 ὡς δ⋯ σὺ ο;ἴει ⋯μ⋯ ⋯ κα⋯ ἄλλθν ⋯ντινο⋯ν ⋯νΘρώπων οὐχ ⋯γεῖσΘαι τ⋯ς μ⋯ν βελτ⋯ους ⋯δον⋯ς τ⋯ δ⋯ χεἵρους. Cp. 500a: τ⋯ν ⋯γαΘ⋯ν οὖν ἔνεκα δεῖ κα⋯ τἆλλα κα⋯ τ⋯ ⋯δ⋯α πρ⋯ττειν, ⋯λλ' οὐ τ⋯γαΘ⋯ τ⋯ν ⋯δ⋯ων.

page 146 note 2 I believe that Plato possessed to a very great extent the power of self-criticism and that the Parmenides, presenting as it does the difficulties and obstacles to the theory of ideas, does not necessarily imply any change in Plato's attitude to the theory.

page 147 note 1 For a full and interesting comparison of the Philebus, Gorgias, and Hippias Maior, see Röilig's table l.c.

page 147 note 2 In his edition of the dialogue (1893).