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XLI. The Penny with the Name of Rodbertus IV. asserted to Robert Duke of Normandy; and other Matters relative to the English Coinage occasionally discussed. By the Rev. Mr. Pegge. In a Leter to Dr. William Hunter

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From the mode of proceeding observed by the Society of Antiquaries in regard to their publications, it is evident, that they have no objection to reviewing any paper in the Archaeologia, either for the purpose of correcting errors, or the further illustration of the subject.

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page 391 note [a] Steph. Martin Leake, esq; has also engraved it.

page 391 note [b] Dr. John Ward, or Dr. Andrew Gifford.

page 391 note [c] Archaeologia, vol. IV. p. 132, seq.

page 393 note [d] A. 1077. his father brought him hither, and sent him on a military expedition into Scotland. Sim. Dunelm. col. 977. Hoveden, p. 458. M. Westm. p. 228, &c.

A. 1091. He came hither in August and staid till near Christmas, accompanying his brother Rufus into Scotland. Chron. Sax. p. 197, seq. Flor. Vig. p. 644. M. Paris, p. 16. M. Westm. p. 252. Hoveden, p. 462. Hen. Hunt. p. 379, &c.

A. 1101. He invaded his brother Henry with force, and staid in England from Aug. 1, to Michaelmas, M. Paris, p. 58. Eadmer, p. 49. Gul. Malmsbury, p. 156. Chron. Sax. p. 209. W. Gemet. p. 675. Ord. Vitalis, p. 788, &c.

A. 1102. or 1103. Malmsbury, p. 156. Sim. Dun. col. 228. Rad. de Diceto, col. 499. H. Hunt. p. 378. Chron. Sax. 211. Hoveden, p. 470. M. Paris, p. 59, &c.

A. 1105. or 1106. Sim. Dun. col. 229. Chron. Sax. p. 213. M. Paris, p. 61. H. Hunt, p. 379. Flor. Vig. p. 652. Chron. Mailros. p. 163. Annal. Waverl. p. 143, &c.

A. 1107. He was brought hither a prisoner. Sim. Dun. col. 230. Hoveden, p. 271, &c.

page 393 note [e] See Mr. Colebrook, p. 138, 139.

page 394 note [f] Archaeologia, vol. I. p. 356.

page 394 note [g] See also the seals of Henry II. in Sandford.

page 394 note [h] Sandford, p. 17.

page 394 note [i] Gale, Honor de Richmond.

page 394 note [k] Mr. Colebrook, p. 139.

page 394 note [l] The annotators on the Society's tables call it a mantle, but this does not seem to suit with armour.—It is a helmet with a lambrequin flowing from it. See the tomb of Aymer de Valence, earl of Pembroke, 1323, in Westminster abbey.

page 394 note [m] See the coins of Edward the Confessor in Sir A. Fountaine's tables; the Norman sides of the broad seals of William I. and II. Henry I. and William earl of Flanders, in Sandford.

page 395 note [n] In his first observation; again below, on the misplacing of the letters.

page 395 note [o] P. 138.

page 395 note [p] P. 133.

page 395 note [q] Pere Daniel II. p. 222. Hoveden, p. 610. Dudo of St. Quintin, p. 84. Gul. Gemet. p. 231.

page 395 note [r] Gul. Malmesbury, p. 95.

page 396 note [s] M. Paris, p. 14.

page 396 note [t] He is also stiled Dux in his son William's epitaph. Sandford, p. 17.

page 396 note [u] Camdeni Anglica, Norman. &c. p. 33. See also the Norman writers, Gul. Gemeticensis, Gul. Pictaviensis, & Ordericus Vitalis; also Henry I. himself in Eadmerus, p. 90. Dux was a term so common in Normandy, that Richard, next brother to our Robert, was called at the time Beorn Dux, duke of Bernay. Sandford, p. 8.

page 397 note [w] Selden, Tit. of Hon. p. 635, seq. edit. 1631, The great earl of Chester, contemporary with the earl of Gloucester, only styled himself Comes on his seal. Archaeologia, IV. p. 120.

page 397 note [x] It is material also, in regard to Mr. Colebrook, that Robert of Gloucester, his principal evidence in the case, calls the duke of Normandy Roberd as well as the earl of Gloucester.

page 398 note [y] Joh. Caius, p. 239. It occurs as early in France as A. D. 861. P. Daniel II. p. 72, and, as we have observed before, Rollo had the name given him at his baptism.

page 398 note [z] Sir A Fountaine, Tab. II. N° 9. Dugd. Mon. III. p. 233. 260. Wharton, Angl. Sacr. I. p. 336. Idem de Epis. Lond. p. 37. Textus Roff. p. 141, & 209–20, of my transcript. Sim. Dun. col. 211. et, ut puto, semper. Joh. Sarisber. p. 747. Camden, col. 181. Silas Taylor, p. 185. 200. Montfaucon, Mon. Franc. p. 17, and plate XXXIV. Malmesbury, p. 95 in marg. et p. 105, ubi Rothbertus in Textu, and Rodbertus in marg. Wilkins, Concil. I. p. 318. 321. 322. Gul. Gemet. passim. Gul. Pictav. p. 107 seq. Ordericus Vitalis passim. Anonym. apud Du Chesne, p. 213. Chron. Mailros, p. 146. 161. et alibi. Gale, Hon. de Richmond, App. p. 6, 7. Liber Niger, p. 406. 413, &c.

page 398 note [a] Camden's Remains, p. 86.

page 399 note [b] Thoresby's Museum, or Nicholson, Hist. Library.

page 399 note [c] He, however, in one place has Robert.

page 399 note [d] Dugd. in Mon. III. p. 260, Rotberdus. Robert of Brunne, Hearne, Pref. to Robert of Gloucester, p. lx. Percy, Reliques of Anc. Poet. III. p. 24.

page 399 note [e] He calls the earl of Gloucester Robert 14 times at least, and never Roberd.

page 399 note [f] Br. Twyne often calls prince Rupert, Robert; and see Trithemius, p. 99. Heylin, Hist. of St. George, p. 251. John Caius calls Robert Gaguin, Rupert, p. 139. and bishop Grosseteste is sometimes named Rupert and Rubert. Herb Robert is Geranium Rupert in Littleton's Dict. v. Sorberiana, p. 86.

page 399 note [g] Camden, Remains, p. 86. and see p. 59. 65.

page 399 note [h] Gibson ad Chron. Sax. in Nom. Virorum. In the old library at Peter-borough, there were “Versus de descriptione nominum diversorum, ut Robert, et “Richardi, et aliorum,” Gunton, p. 216. perhaps the Distich in Wharton, Angl. Sacr. II. p. 326, may be thence taken

Robore vir fortis, fidei radicibus haerens.

Sic bene Robertus nomine reque valet.

page 400 note [i] Mr. Colebrook, p. 135.

page 400 note [k] Idem. p. 138. 140.

page 401 note [l] See the last coin of Stephen in the Society's plate, and that of Stephen and Henry.

page 402 note [m] Mr. Colebrook acknowledges this. “The prelates, earls, and barons, says “he, took upon them to coin their own money according to Hoveden,” p. 137. See. him again, p. 139.

page 403 note [n] Mr. Colebrook, p. 139.

page 403 note [o] Idem, p. 139.

page 404 note [p] Rapin, p. 201. 203. 205. Decem Script. col. 1377. but they were ill paid. Rapin, p. 205, says, Stephen's army entirely consisted of foreign soldiers, but there were many great lords with him at Lincoln.

page 404 note [q] Dr. Brady, Hist. of Engl. p. 68, seq.

page 404 note [r] Rapin, p. 205.

page 404 note [s] Fitz-Stephen, p. 28. As the numbers there are not only immense, but inconsistent with Peter de Blois' account, lord Lyttelton suggests in his corrections, that there may be an error in Peter of quadraginta for quadringenta. The numbers were almost incredible, but many appeared that were not citizens. Rapin, p. 206, and this in my opinion accounts for them.

page 404 note [t] Rapin, p. 186 in not.

page 405 note [u] Rapin, p. 203.

page 405 note [w] Idem. p. 208.

page 405 note [x] Idem. p. 208.

page 405 note [y] Stephen at one time is said to have made his own money lighter. Malmsbury, p. 185.

page 406 note [z] Rapin, p. 205.

page 406 note [a] Assemblage of coins of the archbishops of Canterb. p. 85. Quo warranto 3 Edw. III. The grant to Rob. de Caysneto is extant in the Archives at Lincoln.

page 406 note [b] Rapin, p. 205.

page 406 note [c] Ibid. p. 203.

page 407 note [d] Assemblage of Coins of Archbishops of Cant. p. 51, seq.

page 407 note [e] Ibidem, p. 56.

page 407 note [f] Ibidem, p. 88.

page 407 note [g] Ibidem, p. 91. or Mr. Leake, p. 53.

page 407 note [h] Hearne's Pref. to Robert of Gloucester, p. lxiii. or Stowe, Chron. p. 201.

page 408 note [i] Mr. Colebrook, p. 133.

page 408 note [k] Somner, Antiq. of Cant. p. 64.

page 408 note [l] This we are told was the case in king Stephen's time Rapin, p. 205.

page 409 note [m] At a random guess more than 30.

page 409 note [n] Nicholson, Hist. Libr. p. 253.

page 409 note [o] Richard I, in whose time money did not probably abound more than in the preceding reigns, covenanted to pay 150,000 marks for his ransom, which can scarcely be thought one half of the running cash of the nation; and 300,000 marks is equal to 200,000£. The Conqueror left 60,000£. in money, besides plate and jewels of much greater value, in his treasury. Rufus did not want money for all necessary and even great purposes. A. 1105, Henry I, carried plenty of gold and silver with him to Normandy. Sim. Dun. col. 229. Brompton, col. 998. Stephen laid hold of Henry the First's treasure, (Diceto, col. 505,) 100,000 marks or pounds, besides plate and jewels; (Rapin, p. 201.) and Henry II. gave at once, for the relief of Jerusalem, 42,000 marks of silver, and 500 of gold. Walsingham, p. 451. So that these five sovereigns, though often distressed, and often oppressors of their subjects, had a great deal of money passing through their hands.

page 410 note [p] Mr. Colebrook, p. 140.

page 410 note [q] I shall rather confirm it by observing, that you, Sir, have a coin of Edward IV, struck at Coventry, with B upon the breast, and another of the Confessor coined at Leicester, with the York annulet on the reverse.

page 411 note [r] Might it not be the work of some usurper who durst not put his name?

page 411 note [s] See above, p. 400.

page 412 note [t] Assemblage of Metrop. Coins, p. 14. 68.

page 412 note [u] Ibid. p. 73. seq. See also Gul. Gemet. p. 303. Alured Beverl. p. 147. 150. and next paragraph here.

page 412 note [w] Hoveden, p. 597.

page 412 note [x] Ibidem, p. 654.

page 412 note [y] Ibidem, p. 746.

page 413 note [z] M. Paris, p. 963.

page 413 note [a] And so Mr. Stowe understood it, p. 156. So Mr. Martin-Leake, p. 53, and others.

page 413 note [b] So Stowe again.

page 413 note [c] Rad. dc Diceto, col. 611.

page 413 note [d] Gervas. Dorob. col. 1457.

page 414 note [e] Mr. Leake, p. 53.

page 414 note [f] Stowe, p. 155.

page 414 note [g] Alured. Beverl. p. 150.

page 414 note [h] Somner, Antiq. Canterb. p. 64.

page 414 note [i] Du Fresne, in voce. See also Gul. Gemetic. p. 303.

page 414 note [k] Annal. Waverl. p. 161.