The following is an edited version of a conversation between Jane Gleeson-White and Geoff Harcourt about Jane’s book, Double Entry. This conversation was part of UNSWriting and presented at Io Myers Studio by the Creative Practice and Research Unit in the School of the Arts and Media, Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, UNSW. UNSWriting brings together writers, academics, and students of writing to facilitate the flow of ideas in and around the city, the country and internationally. The conversation was broadcast by the ABC as part of their Big Ideas program. Emeritus Geoffrey Harcourt is Visiting Professorial Fellow in the Australian School of Business, UNSW, Emeritus Reader in the History of Economic Theory, Cambridge University, Emeritus Fellow, Jesus College, Cambridge, and a leading post-Keynesian scholar.