As can be seen in this example, some of the music tracks that were discussed in the interviews dealt directly with issues of abuse. Talking to men about their experiences of childhood domestic violence was a sensitive and delicate process. They had all come to take part in the research because they identified with the study context; however, it became clear that the label did not resonate with everyone. Nowhere was this more poignant than in the case of Lester, who noted, ‘I didn't experience the domestic part of the violence.’ However, he disclosed how his mother had in fact been strangled to death by her partner when he was a young child. In addition to Lester feeling his experiences did not come under the domestic violence and abuse (DVA) label, there were also several men who considered DVA as incorporating their own direct experiences of physical and sexual child abuse. What became clear in the men's stories was that there was often a conflation between domestic violence/ abuse and child maltreatment: ‘domestic abuse’ was interpreted more broadly as ‘abuse in the home’. Travis shared the tragic story of his nephew who was killed by his parents. He was in tears as he spoke to me about his regret at not realizing the abuse that was occurring, which was brought up using this music track: