Book contents
- Frontmatter
- Contents
- List of contributors
- Preface
- Introduction
- 1 Dialectic and virtue in Plato's Protagoras
- 2 Ethics and argument in Plato's Socrates
- 3 The speech of Agathon in Plato's Symposium
- 4 Is dialectic as dialectic does? The virtue of philosophical conversation
- 5 What use is Aristotle's doctrine of the mean?
- 6 Aristotle's ethics as political science
- 7 Epieikeia: the competence of the perfectly just person in Aristotle
- 8 Aristotle on the benefits of virtue (Nicomachean Ethics 10.7 and 9.8)
- 9 Epicurean ‘passions’ and the good life
- 10 Moral responsibility and moral development in Epicurus' philosophy
- 11 ‘Who do we think we are?’
- General bibliography
- List of publications by Dorothea Frede
- Index locorum
- Index nominum et rerum
2 - Ethics and argument in Plato's Socrates
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 22 September 2009
- Frontmatter
- Contents
- List of contributors
- Preface
- Introduction
- 1 Dialectic and virtue in Plato's Protagoras
- 2 Ethics and argument in Plato's Socrates
- 3 The speech of Agathon in Plato's Symposium
- 4 Is dialectic as dialectic does? The virtue of philosophical conversation
- 5 What use is Aristotle's doctrine of the mean?
- 6 Aristotle's ethics as political science
- 7 Epieikeia: the competence of the perfectly just person in Aristotle
- 8 Aristotle on the benefits of virtue (Nicomachean Ethics 10.7 and 9.8)
- 9 Epicurean ‘passions’ and the good life
- 10 Moral responsibility and moral development in Epicurus' philosophy
- 11 ‘Who do we think we are?’
- General bibliography
- List of publications by Dorothea Frede
- Index locorum
- Index nominum et rerum
Summary
SYSTEMATIZING SOCRATES
Socrates is a figure in all of Plato's dialogues except the Laws; and in all the dialogues in which he occurs, Socrates illustrates something important to Plato about philosophy and the way it should be pursued. However, as soon as we try to think of Socrates as an intellectual personality unified across dialogues, we run into the need to take an interpretative stance.
There has recently been increased focus on the radically different lines taken by developmentalism, which sees Plato's works in terms of an overall development of thought between dialogues, and unitarianism, which leads us to approach Plato in terms of themes across dialogues. In this paper I aim to continue in a constructive and friendly way a debate on this issue with Dorothea Frede, hoping to develop a point of debate between us in a (relatively) new direction. It is a pleasure to offer this paper to Dorothea, whose work on Plato has excited and benefited us all.
Developmentalists see progress from Socrates as negative arguer to Socrates as positive expounder. As far as this development is concerned, we can separate off those dialogues where Socrates takes part only in a short introductory conversation, and the rest is carried on by somebody else, like the Eleatic Visitor or Timaeus. When we look at Sophist, Statesman, Timaeus or Critias we find that Socrates' presence in these dialogues is important, but not central to the issue of this development.
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- The Virtuous Life in Greek Ethics , pp. 32 - 46Publisher: Cambridge University PressPrint publication year: 2006
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