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9 - Comments on chapters 7 and 8

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  13 July 2009

Thomas Franck
Affiliation:
Professor of Law Emeritus New York University School of Law
Jochen Abr. Frowein
Affiliation:
Director Emeritus of the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and Public International Law in Heidelberg, and Professor emeritus of Constitutional and Public International Law University of Heidelberg
Daniel Thürer
Affiliation:
Professor of Law University of Zürich; Member International Committee of the Red Cross
Michael Byers
Affiliation:
Duke University, North Carolina
Georg Nolte
Affiliation:
Georg-August-Universität, Göttingen, Germany
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Thomas Franck

In this comment, I deal first with the chapter written by Brad Roth, before responding to the general argument raised by Marcelo Kohen.

I agree with some of Roth's conclusions, if not always his tone and nuance. I do think that he is basically right about policy-oriented jurisprudence as advocated by the New Haven School, but two elements of the New Haven thesis seem to me to be irrefutable in this context, or at least to have been unrefuted either by legal logic or by recent events in Kosovo and elsewhere. Since disclosure is the name of the game I wish to disclose that I am not now and have never been a Yalie. I am surprised to find that I am a moral positivist, but then, this is reminiscent of the man who was surprised to find that he had been speaking prose all his life. The jurisprudential problem to which the New Haven School addresses itself is the international equivalent of the United States v. Holmes case or its British equivalent, in which passengers in an overloaded lifeboat were thrown overboard by crew members in order to prevent its sinking in stormy seas. What the New Haven School contributes to the disposition of the murder charge that was actually brought against the survivors of this incident is a rational search for a way in which the law might seek to avoid self-destructive reductio ad absurdum.

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  • Comments on chapters 7 and 8
    • By Thomas Franck, Professor of Law Emeritus New York University School of Law, Jochen Abr. Frowein, Director Emeritus of the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and Public International Law in Heidelberg, and Professor emeritus of Constitutional and Public International Law University of Heidelberg, Daniel Thürer, Professor of Law University of Zürich; Member International Committee of the Red Cross
  • Edited by Michael Byers, Duke University, North Carolina, Georg Nolte, Georg-August-Universität, Göttingen, Germany
  • Book: United States Hegemony and the Foundations of International Law
  • Online publication: 13 July 2009
  • Chapter DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511494154.011
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  • Comments on chapters 7 and 8
    • By Thomas Franck, Professor of Law Emeritus New York University School of Law, Jochen Abr. Frowein, Director Emeritus of the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and Public International Law in Heidelberg, and Professor emeritus of Constitutional and Public International Law University of Heidelberg, Daniel Thürer, Professor of Law University of Zürich; Member International Committee of the Red Cross
  • Edited by Michael Byers, Duke University, North Carolina, Georg Nolte, Georg-August-Universität, Göttingen, Germany
  • Book: United States Hegemony and the Foundations of International Law
  • Online publication: 13 July 2009
  • Chapter DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511494154.011
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  • Comments on chapters 7 and 8
    • By Thomas Franck, Professor of Law Emeritus New York University School of Law, Jochen Abr. Frowein, Director Emeritus of the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and Public International Law in Heidelberg, and Professor emeritus of Constitutional and Public International Law University of Heidelberg, Daniel Thürer, Professor of Law University of Zürich; Member International Committee of the Red Cross
  • Edited by Michael Byers, Duke University, North Carolina, Georg Nolte, Georg-August-Universität, Göttingen, Germany
  • Book: United States Hegemony and the Foundations of International Law
  • Online publication: 13 July 2009
  • Chapter DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9780511494154.011
Available formats
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